Do you make your own fishfoods??

[fishmaven]

Tell us what you use in

your creation and why you use certain things. Please try to include the base of your production.


Why do you make your own foods?
Do you use it for growth? Because it's a better

food? More veggies or meat products than others? What?
Is it an already made base like a

Tetra/OSI product? Fresh meat products?
Is it protein based or vegetable? Krill or

spirulina?
What vitamins do you add? Where do you get them?
Do you add meds? Why?/Why

not? If so, which ones?
What form does the resultant food take? (Frozen? Gel? Flake? Pellet?)


If the resultant is hard, do you soften it before feeding? Why?/Why not?
What quantities

do you make?
How do you package it?
How do you store it?
Do you make it for

sale/trade to others or just use it yourself?

If you don't make your own fishfoods

but know of a good recipe, would you share it with us?
Dan

[dstuer]

[quote

name='fishmaven' date='Feb 12 2007, 02:57 PM' post='3874']
My wife

buys these big bags of broccolli from sams club, there are tons of crumbs in the bottom, when its

used up.
I then go out buy a few raw shrimp(maybe some mussels or any other sea food),

combine the shrimp, brocolli crumbs, some thawed peas, a sheet or two of sushi seaweed raps, and a

clove of garlic(anti worm/nematode) in the blender frappe it a little, mix in some gelatin and

freeze in pint size bags. Any other veg I consider fair game thats laying around too.
After

getting that sample of HBH spirolina soft at the convention last July, I've added it to my

feeding regime, even works good smashed between fingers for small fry.
Whole thawed and

smashed peas about every 3rd day are also on the menu, as are romaine and red leaf lettuce leaves.


One of my planted sumps gets pretty overrun with hair algae, and it is harvested about

once/week and relished by the Vieja and E suratensus.
As you can see I'm not all that big

on animal protein. Believe less is more.

[fishmaven]

Current research would

indicate that not only fish benefit from high vegetable diets, humans do too. I've got a

question though. How do you feed the frozen gel from the plastic bag? I'd probably spread it on

a cookie sheet and cut it into small pieces before freezing or use those really small ice cube

trays. Dan

[dstuer]

[quote

name='fishmaven' date='Feb 14 2007, 06:07 PM' post='3891']
I spread it

out into a flattened bag and freeze, its fairly easy to break chunks off. After breaking, the

residue on my fingers, crumbs and smaller chucks get shaken up in a little tank water and poured

into the fry grow out tank(s), same for bag residue.
Broccolli does have a bit of a down side

though, after feeding an especially broccolli laden batch my wife usually asks if I've had a

case of Montezumas revenge.

[hmccsal]

I mixed

salmon,scallops,prawns,garlic,frozen peas and cooked carrots. Run it throght the meat mincer a

couple of times. Then I add flake food to soak up the juices and bind it together. I put it by

spoon in freezer bags and flatten and freeze. They go crazy for it. If you want exact reciepe PM

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[fishmaven]

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salmon,scallops,prawns,garlic,frozen peas and cooked carrots. Run it throght the meat mincer a

couple of times. Then I add flake food to soak up the juices and bind it together. I put it by

spoon in freezer bags and flatten and freeze. They go crazy for it. If you want exact reciepe PM

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That sounds like it could

be an expensive mix. It also sounds meat intensive.
Are most of your fish carnivores?

Do you use frozen or fresh meat products?

Do you get these products from a

seafood specialty place or a grocery store?

Do you feed this to everything or just a few

of your fish?

Do you add vitamins or other supplements too?
Dan

[hmccsal]

I dont use it as a only

food source. I have Lake Malawi cichlids,pigeon blood discus, a kissing gourami, weather

loaches,betta,swordtails and common plecos. I feed it once a day to all of them and they go crazy

even my swordtails love it. I use frozen scallops,salmon and prawns. I live in northern alberta and

have no chance to get fresh seafood. I got 4 medium freezer bags and have barely touched the top

of one bag. I bought it all at the grocery store, you may even be able to find the mixed bags of

frozen seafood at wal-mart. I didn't add any supplements or vitamins as I still feed them flake

and tubifex worms during one feeding. I feed NLS food which is also amazing in itself. A little

pricey but well worth it. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

[felixpaws]

I've tried a similar

mix to the others, based on the "european shrimp mix". Shrimp, tail/head/shell on,

frozen peas, frozen broccoli, frozen scallops, clam juice, frozen tilapia filets, knox gelatin,

fresh romaine lettuce, frozen green beans, all bought at wal-mart, and spirulina powder, which I

bought at this wacky health food store that looked to be mainly wiccan, and kind of creepy. I

didn't add the nori(seaweed) like I wanted or the garlic cloves(I forgot, unfortunately). I

blended it all in a food processor(I made two batches, with some of the vegetables in one, and some

in the other, and a lot more spirulina in one, I misjudged the amount, and added twice the

recomended amount), boiled the water made the gelatin, spoon blended it in, and spoon scooped

dollops into ziploc freezer bags(be careful here, if you add too much the bags will be thick when

laid flat, and therefore hard to break chunks off later, when frozen, I found out the hard way, the

thinner the better), laid them flat on a cookie shhet in the freezer, and waited a day. The fish

love it, but be careful, it's easy to overfeed, and I'm still trying to get the balance

right. I made a lot, and still have a lot after several months(probably six or seven months now.).

The proportions are up to you. Africans will do better with more veggies, and less protein.

I'd use saltwater fish, instaed of Tilapia. Fishborne diseases, and all that. I don't

like adding vitamins, because I don't know exaclty which ones to add, and baby vitamis or

multivitamins for humans seems a bit like guesswork, to me. The food stays rather solid, and

won't cloud the water much, if fed sparingly. I feed this for variety, along with four or five

other dry foods, occasional frozen brine shrimp, bloodworms, and mysis shrimp(I received my fish

for free, along with a couple of 75 gallon tanks, and they were malnourished, so I feed mysis etc.

to get some weight on them). I'd recommend this mix if you want a variety of foods for your

fish, plus, it's not too expensive to make, keeps well, and the fish love it. I even feed it

to my tetras, barbs, danios, gourami, cories, and otos.

[felixpaws]

Also, it is sort of a

gel form, I feed it frozen directly, and it defrosts in the tank, no harm to the fish, it stays in

a lump until my pleco gets at it or the cichlids start attacking it, it floats, I made about 10

gallon size ziploc bags full, and have a few left, still, I made it for just me, and feed it about

once every week or two. I originally made it for the omnivorous brichardis, and then I received

the electric yellows, and bought a few more africans. I worry about bloat, so, I don't feed it

as often as I'd like, anymore, which is why I have so much left. You could make a strictly

veggie mix, easily. Leave out the seafood, and clam juice, and either stick with all the

vegetables I mentioned or add sme more greens. I've heard collard greens, kale, cabbage,

carrots(in moderation, due to the sugar in them), parsely, cucumber, squash, bananas(also in

moderation, same reason), celery, asparagus, spinach, and beet tops make good greens for fish.

I've fed most of those, and I blanch them so as to break down the cellulose, and to make it

easier for the fish to eat. Most greens we'd eat are okay. Good luck!

[mofunnyfarm]

Back in the 60's

and 70's good quality food for hard to find for africans. We made our food from baby food.

Carrots, peas. spinach and other veggies. We mixed it with baby cereal and flattened it in baggies

and froze it. You can pick and choose what you put in your food. We also cut up and ground beef

heart. We had over 100 tanks of fish at the time. I don't go to this much effort now as there

are many good brands of food. I do know a man that still cuts and grinds beef heart for his discus.


I wouldn't go to that much effort unless I felt my fish were gaining some nutritional

advantage that I felt they missing.
Walter