menerambo juveniles need good homes

[jluckshire]

Hey...

Both

Lou Rovner and I have spawned and raised some P. menerambo recently.

We have some

available to good homes - since we'd like to get some of these established among knowledgeable

keepers... Obviously they're going to require space...

The two of us have raised a

batch of these - and I just separated yet another group that were born on Christmas day.

The ones that are ready for distribution came into the world in August.

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Let me know if you're

interested.

John Luckshire

[jluckshire]

Interesting that I've

only received interest on these fish from one source (joseG).... And I'm making arrangements to

ship him some fish.. What we're looking for is people who have the knowledge and interest to

help continue this species - at least in captivity (for now...)..

The menerambo is

pretty prolific. The "christmas babies" are doing well. And I've just partially

removed another spawn (took about 40 and left parents with about 15).

The reason

we're able to succeed in raising these spawns seems to be very warm water (84 degrees and

above). I'm hoping we can find others that are willing to commit space to this fish.

John

[dstuer]

I've been keeping

menerambo for a few years, half dozen spawns, but never any fry. My temp is approx 80, sounds too

low from what you say. Any other tips? Are you keeping them in aquaria or ponds?<!--quoteo

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{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>Interesting that I've only

received interest on these fish from one source (joseG).... And I'm making arrangements to ship

him some fish.. What we're looking for is people who have the knowledge and interest to help

continue this species - at least in captivity (for now...)..

The menerambo is pretty

prolific. The "christmas babies" are doing well. And I've just partially removed

another spawn (took about 40 and left parents with about 15).

The reason we're able

to succeed in raising these spawns seems to be very warm water (84 degrees and above). I'm

hoping we can find others that are willing to commit space to this fish.

John<!--

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[Frank T]

looking to see if it is

something i would want and can not find any info on these, or pictures.

[jluckshire]

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@ Jan 8 2007, 08:49 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=3526"><{POST_SNAPBACK}

></a></div><div class='quotemain'>looking to see if it is something i would want and

can not find any info on these, or pictures.</div>

Paretroplus menerambo information can be found most anywhere- certainly an internet search will

be prductive. They are extremely endangered - and reportedly extinct in nature. The only chance

these cichlids have of surviving is in captivity right now - with the ultimate hope that conditions

in Madagascar can be improved someday.

John

[jluckshire]

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Jan 8 2007, 02:57 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=3520"><{POST_SNAPBACK}

></a></div><div class='quotemain'>I've been keeping menerambo for a few years,

half dozen spawns, but never any fry. My temp is approx 80, sounds too low from what you say. Any

other tips? Are you keeping them in aquaria or ponds?</div>

The temperature of 84+ degrees has to do with preventing massive die-offs post free-swimming

stage - and was the difference for us in raising them successfully. They'll spawn in water much

cooler than this. Almost all reports have these fish spawning in pools, ponds are very large

aquaria. They spawned for me in a 6foot 180 gallon aquarium with lots of large bogwood pieces.

Water conditions don't seem critical - although they seemed to be sparked by large weekly water

changes. That tank had 7 large menerambo in in when they spawned. I previously had two lamena and

four polleni in the tank with them and although they always went through the motions of spawning -

they weren't successful until I removed the other species. Vitually immediately (within a

couple days) upon removal of the other species (accompanied by 70 percent water change...) - the

spawned. And spawned again while the fry were just free swimming.

As far as fry care -I

kept the fry in very small tanks- changed 50% twice daily (preheated and treated replacement water

of course) the high temperature noted above - heavy feedings of BBS worked.

Lou Rovner

canvassed everyone he knew who worked with these fish - and it was Alex Saunders who provided the

temperature tip.

Hope it helps!

Let me know who would like to take on

this fish - we need to help them survive - If I'm convinced I'm dealing with people who are

interested in commiting to try to save this fish - the only thing I'll be looking for is

shipping costs..
John

[Frank T]

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(jluckshire @ Jan 9 2007, 07:04 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=3535"><

{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>Paretroplus menerambo information

can be found most anywhere- certainly an internet search will be prductive.</div><!

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half were this thread and half were someone looking for them

in 2004

[dstuer]

Thanks for the info John, I

have 6 menerambo in a 5" tank with 5 lamena. Looks like I need to rehouse the lamena

(insentive to shortly get some to you Bob). After each water change they do start shimmying,

ordered a couple new heaters moments ago. How about your other menerambo? did you need to separate

them from the spawning pair, divider maybe? When I tried to keep mine as solitary pairs, they

didn't do well.
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In these pics, the eggs were white, and immediately eaten. The spawn

before, the eggs were pink and lasted a day or so.
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08:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=3536)</div><div

class='quotemain'>The temperature of 84+ degrees has to do with preventing massive

die-offs post free-swimming stage - and was the difference for us in raising them successfully.

They'll spawn in water much cooler than this. Almost all reports have these fish spawning in

pools, ponds are very large aquaria. They spawned for me in a 6foot 180 gallon aquarium with lots

of large bogwood pieces. Water conditions don't seem critical - although they seemed to be

sparked by large weekly water changes. That tank had 7 large menerambo in in when they spawned. I

previously had two lamena and four polleni in the tank with them and although they always went

through the motions of spawning - they weren't successful until I removed the other species.

Vitually immediately (within a couple days) upon removal of the other species (accompanied by 70

percent water change...) - the spawned. And spawned again while the fry were just free swimming.

As far as fry care -I kept the fry in very small tanks- changed 50% twice daily (preheated

and treated replacement water of course) the high temperature noted above - heavy feedings of BBS

worked.

Lou Rovner canvassed everyone he knew who worked with these fish - and it was

Alex Saunders who provided the temperature tip.

Hope it helps!

Let me

know who would like to take on this fish - we need to help them survive - If I'm convinced

I'm dealing with people who are interested in commiting to try to save this fish - the only

thing I'll be looking for is shipping costs..
John</div><!--QuoteEEnd-

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[dstuer]

Hey Benz, I know my photo

skills and cam leave a lot to be desired but...
These are a great species, very personable,

nip my hands when I vacum
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Duane

[Frank T]

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Jan 9 2007, 10:24 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=3539"><{POST_SNAPBACK}

></a></div><div class='quotemain'>Hey Benz, I know my photo skills and cam leave a

lot to be desired but...
These are a great species, very personable, nip my hands when I

vacum

Duane</div>

photo skills are as good s

mine, dosent say much.
but
they look Very good!

sounds like a fish i

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--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>I have 6 menerambo in a

5" tank</div>
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[Damba]

Great fish and luckily *not*

extinct. Last year a friend of my friend Olaf Pronk, rediscovered this speceis in a lake in the

Sofia/Bemarivo flood plain of Madagascar. He now has in his tanks the frist Wild caught Menarambo

since 1997! Unfortunaltey none can be bought out of MAdagascar.

[Tim]

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2007, 08:37 AM:name=Benz_020)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Benz_020 @ Jan 9 2007,

08:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=3537)</div><div

class='quotemain'>ya, sure it will.
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half were this thread and half

were someone looking for them in 2004</div>

If you get

the Buntbarsche, Sonia Guinane wrote an article on the Paretroplus dambabe in the June 2007 issue.

She also wrote the profiles for the Madagascar Cichlids in Enjoying Cichlids 2nd edition edited by

Ad Konings. So there's a couple resources that may be available to you.
Tim

[Lisachromis]

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2007, 11:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=3542)</div><div

class='quotemain'>If you get the Buntbarsche, Sonia Guinane wrote an article on the

Paretroplus dambabe in the June 2007 issue. She also wrote the profiles for the Madagascar Cichlids

in Enjoying Cichlids 2nd edition edited by Ad Konings. So there's a couple resources that may

be available to you.
Tim</div>

I hope you mean the

June 2006 edition http://cichlid.ipbhost.com/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[dstuer]

Oops ...sorry bout that...must

be my lesdixia...every once in a while it creeps back.Thanks Lisachromis<!--quoteo

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{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>I hope you mean the June 2006

edition http://cichlid.ipbhost.com/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif</div><!--

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[bobrfish]

Congratulations John and

Lou.
I hope some one takes you up on your fry offer. It seems like every fish room visitor is

in awe of menarambo. I still find them very beautiful.

In my fish room Paretropleus

menarambo spawned when temperature increased.

So not only are increased temps needed

to raise fry but it helps to stimulate spawning. I have been too busy to raise fry lately.

Previously I found raising fry to be fairly labor intensive with a many daily feedings, perferable

live food and clean water.

[JustRon]

I would be willing to give up

a 200g tank for them if you still need to move some more, I will start keeping them again.

[bobrfish]

576 hits for P. menarambo

<a href="http://www.google.com/search?

as_q=&hl=en&num=10&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=menarambo&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr

=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&a

mp;as_sitesearch=&as_rights=&safe=images" target="_blank">http://www.google.com/search?

as_q=&hl=...amp;safe=images</a>

[jluckshire]

Sounds like we should

start making arrangements!
Distributing them among good hobbyists is an immediate

achievable goal.
John

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-quotec-->I would be willing to give up a 200g tank for them if you still need to move some more, I

will start keeping them again.</div>

[Ihavefishwantmore]

I know this is

kind of old but I sent you a PM. I am very interested.

[fishfarm]

I have kept them in the

past and spawned them but without successful hatching. I'd devote a 500 gallon to them should

you deem me worhty. http://cichlid.ipbhost.com/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif Ken

[jluckshire]

Ron,
Sure Ron -

please send contact info to jluckshire@comcast.net
either Lou or I will hook you up with some

- we want to be moving these in April

I hadn't seen your note, somehow.. I get

aut-updated when they arrive - but perhaps there were multiples and I missed yours.
John

<div

class='quotetop'>QUOTE(cichlid @ Feb 22 2007, 07:01 PM) <a href="index.php?

act=findpost&pid=4002"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>I would

be willing to give up a 200g tank for them if you still need to move some more, I will start

keeping them again.</div>

[Frank T]

[i]

[attachment=214:attachment]

[jluckshire]

tank - size sounds great

- I would like to hear a little about your hobby - but quick look sounds like you're a good

cantidate.
You should send me contact info off line.

Expect we'll ship in

april.

john
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><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(fishfarm @ Mar 13 2007, 08:23 AM) <a href="index.php?

act=findpost&pid=4197"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>I have

kept them in the past and spawned them but without successful hatching. I'd devote a 500 gallon

to them should you deem me worhty. http://cichlid.ipbhost.com/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif Ken</div>

[kenpur]

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31 2006, 12:49 PM:name=jluckshire)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jluckshire @ Dec 31

2006, 12:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=3425)</div><div

class='quotemain'>Hey...

Both Lou Rovner and I have spawned and raised

some P. menerambo recently.

We have some available to good homes - since we'd like

to get some of these established among knowledgeable keepers... Obviously they're going to

require space...

The two of us have raised a batch of these - and I just separated yet

another group that were born on Christmas day.

The ones that are ready for distribution

came into the world in August.

http://cichlid.ipbhost.com/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

Let me know if you're

interested.

John Luckshire</div>
John-
I am

interested. Please contact me via e-mail. I can not PM.
Thanks, Ken

[rjf1963]

Hello John,

I have been interested in these fish for years. I've read about them in an article titled

Cichlids of Jurassic Park, by Paul V. Loiselle. If you have any more that you can part with,

I'd be very interested in purchasing some of these rare and endangered fish from you. I

currently have four tanks set up in my fish room: a 240,a 135, a 40, and a 20. I mostly keep

central american and south american cichlids. However, I do have three nossibeensis which are also

from Madagascar. I know that you've already had 89 responses. Please contact me at

monoargent@aol.com if you have any of these fish left.


Rene

[JustRon]

John,

I have my 200

ready for them now. Either them or I am going to get the Maculatus and try them.

[Ihavefishwantmore]

I just got mine.

Thanks John.

[jluckshire]

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@ May 3 2007, 04:57 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=4822"><{POST_SNAPBACK}

></a></div><div class='quotemain'>John,

I have my 200 ready for them now.

Either them or I am going to get the Maculatus and try them.</div><!--QuoteEEnd--

>
Hey ron - sounds good..

Lou rovner is on florida fish farm/collecting tour with

Luis Morales - he has MANY menerambo ready - i just tapped out the shipping of mine - but this is a

combined effort and we'll continue working with Julie to get these out there. I have some

business with Lou to take care of right after he returns mid-week next week - I'll let him know

you are ready..

John

[jluckshire]

I also forgot something

else Rich Bireley (speaker chairman for the aca convention this year) received fish from me this

week - some for his personal keeping - and some to be donated to the Babes (won't use the other

b-word in this environment :-)) auction benefitting the Loiselle fund. So I'll be looking

forward to seeing some of my babies at the auction. We're also putting together (lou and I)

with Rich's help in scheduling - a meeting/presentation for those interestd in Madagascan

preservation. Together we can improve their chances! Hope to see y'all there.. John

[richb]

Yes, I received the fish

from John. No mortality and all doing well. I've sent an email to Claudia to register mine and,

as John said, there is a nice bunch for the convention auction.

See you all there.

Regards,

Rich


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-quotec-->I also forgot something else Rich Bireley (speaker chairman for the aca convention this

year) received fish from me this week - some for his personal keeping - and some to be donated to

the Babes (won't use the other b-word in this environment :-)) auction benefitting the Loiselle

fund. So I'll be looking forward to seeing some of my babies at the auction. We're also

putting together (lou and I) with Rich's help in scheduling - a meeting/presentation for those

interestd in Madagascan preservation. Together we can improve their chances! Hope to see

y'all there.. John</div>

[Bstuver]

I would be interested in

getting some of these. If you have any left please let me know. I have a 210G tank they could go

into. I tried to use the PM feature but it won't let me not sure if that is because I am new

here. I got your name from a member named duane on another site.

Thanks

[jluckshire]

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@ Jul 12 2007, 08:20 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=5762"><{POST_SNAPBACK}

></a></div><div class='quotemain'>I would be interested in getting some of these. If

you have any left please let me know. I have a 210G tank they could go into. I tried to use the PM

feature but it won't let me not sure if that is because I am new here. I got your name from a

member named duane on another site.

Thanks</div>

Hi,

Are you attending the ACA convention? Between the two of us, Lou Rovner and I are

donating 50 fish to the "Babes" auction..

The one's I have now I prefer to

hold on to - but perhaps Lou will have some _ I'll let him know you're interested. and in

the future I'll keep you in mind if you're still interested - but you need to send me

contact info - name would also help...

John Luckshire
jluckshire@comcast.net

My address

[Bstuver]

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13 2007, 04:49 AM:name=jluckshire)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jluckshire @ Jul 13

2007, 04:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=5772)</div><div

class='quotemain'>Hi,

Are you attending the ACA convention? Between the

two of us, Lou Rovner and I are donating 50 fish to the "Babes" auction..

The

one's I have now I prefer to hold on to - but perhaps Lou will have some _ I'll let him

know you're interested. and in the future I'll keep you in mind if you're still

interested - but you need to send me contact info - name would also help...

John

Luckshire
jluckshire@comcast.net

My address</div>

Hi John-
I have sent you an email at the above address you gave me. By the way my name

is Jackie and I am located in Utah. Sorry didn't realize I didn't put my name I normally

end all of my posts with my name http://cichlid.ipbhost.com/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif
Thanks

Jackie

[cindywindy]

Hi, John -

I

am assuming the four Menorambo that I picked up at the Babes auction last Saturday night came from

you ? I think there were a couple of bags of 6 smaller ones and a couple of bags of 2 larger ones

each, sold. I got 2 bags of the larger ones - a total of 4 Menorambo for $40. A steal.

The fish are doing great, look amazing, and are all eating heartily. The smallest of the 4

looked like it was having trouble in the hotel room but we left early to get them home on Sunday

and all are doing great now. If these fish came from you, thank you for sending such amazing fish

to the auction ! Hopefully I will have success in spawning them when they are a bit

older/bigger, too.

[bobrfish]

My compliments on the larger

P. menarambo. Those were beautiful fish.

Smaller ones were nice too but still need to

grow a bit more before they are out of the woods.