Dainichi Cichlid pellets

[pitdogg2]

Anybody here ever fed any of the Dainichi Pellets?
if yes did you like/dislike and why. Thinking of buying some of the veggie formula's for my Synspilius and Rotkeil's
Thanks Ivan

[chc]

I tried it a few times after picking some up at the convention a few years. I'm sure it's a decent food, but my fish didn't fine it too palatable. Also, it doesn't match up to NLS or Xtreme nutritionally, so unless I couldn't find a decent bulk price on one of those two I wouldn't feed it.

That's just my personal opinion though. At the end of the day, we probably over-emphasize the importance of some things. Twenty or more years ago it was tough to get a decent pelleted food, but now most of the name brands offer a pretty good product.

[Narwhal72]

I tried them a few years ago. I thought it was good quality but the food was pretty sticky and moist.

[Mikeinco]

I love this food and picked up some a few years in a row at the ACA but haven't been able to find it lately. If I could buy it at the LFS I would surely start using it again.

[tr6]

It shouldn't be sticky and moist, it has a hard coating on it.

[pitdogg2]

Well from reading some of the info that is what i got out of it(coating). But this day in age the companies switch so often by the time you run out it's like they're on their 12th generation of their formula so who knows. I don't have any LFS that want to carry it, but one of my mail order suppliers made a BIG deal out of the stuff a couple of years ago and now they do not carry because it was such a poor seller. So tell me why do i want to try this again:)

[Joe Middleton]

I have no problem with it: the fish snap it up. It's too early to tell the effect on fish.

The ingredients seem rather wholesome: no bizarre preservatives. A lot of fish foods contain ethoxyquin, which has been used as a rubber preservative. They also can contain a lot of "mystery meats." The Dianichi veggie pellets contain none of these that I can tell.

[DragonKeeper]

To pricy for me. I have a guy in FL who supplies me food and I resell. Cheaper and better ingredients.

[saimatam]

I have been feeding Dainichi Veggie Pellets to my Tropheus once a day. I alternate
this with Spirulina based flake food. My Tropheus love the Dainichi Pellets.

[pitdogg2]

To pricy for me. I have a guy in FL who supplies me food and I resell. Cheaper and better ingredients.

but yet you do not share the knowledge of that cheaper and better food! why even make a comment?

[freesoul]

Brands really do not matter ..cichlids and other type fish will almost eat anything

[DragonKeeper]

but yet you do not share the knowledge of that cheaper and better food! why even make a comment?

Sorry forgot to tag in my ACA TP ad.
http://www.cichlid.org/forums/showthread.php?t=5482

And fresoul I do believe brands matter. Each manufacturer has different ingredients placed in their food, not all of them are good for fish. Just because a fish will eat it doesn't make it good for them.

[Narwhal72]

Don't take this personally Shawn, but that food you are feeding has some very sketchy ingredients and nutritionally it may even be harmful.

1. One of the major ingredients is "Blood Meal" which comes from beef cattle. Mammalian protein is not generally the best ingredient for fish foods. The second, Third, and Fifth ingredients are terrestrial sources and lend uncertainty to the Aquatic sources claim.
2. The Fat content is a staggeringly high 15%. Fat content levels higher than 8% have been shown to cause liver damage. Ideally it should be down around 3-5%.

http://fishkipedia.com/fish-food-nutrition/

There also are no real color enhancers such as Spirulina, Astaxanthin, Chili powder, Marigold powder, or krill.

Personally I would avoid that food. There's a reason it's cheap.

Andy

[DragonKeeper]

I don't take it personally.

[Matt Quinn]

I agree with Andy's comments - that food will do a great job in growing fish for market quickly (i.e. commerical food fish farming) but not so much for long term health...

Matt

Don't take this personally Shawn, but that food you are feeding has some very sketchy ingredients and nutritionally it may even be harmful.

1. One of the major ingredients is "Blood Meal" which comes from beef cattle. Mammalian protein is not generally the best ingredient for fish foods. The second, Third, and Fifth ingredients are terrestrial sources and lend uncertainty to the Aquatic sources claim.
2. The Fat content is a staggeringly high 15%. Fat content levels higher than 8% have been shown to cause liver damage. Ideally it should be down around 3-5%.

http://fishkipedia.com/fish-food-nutrition/

There also are no real color enhancers such as Spirulina, Astaxanthin, Chili powder, Marigold powder, or krill.

Personally I would avoid that food. There's a reason it's cheap.

Andy

[pitdogg2]

yep and i thought Omega one was high in fat.... I'll stick with Omega one,HBH,Sera,Hikari,Krill and the others i feed. I try to provide a varied diet which also includes freash veggies as well as frozen foods (blood worms,Spirulina brine shrimp)

Freesoul just because they eat it does not mean they are getting any nutritional value what so ever and that is our job as keepers to provide the best nutrition available

[nick a]

I am fortunate to have easy access in my area to many quality choices such as Dainichi. I have been using Dainichi pellets as a part of my fish's feed rotation for years. I keep a relatively broad range of fish types and all have done well short/long term with this as a part of their diet.

I use a random mixture primarily of the Ultima, Color Supreme & Color FX (as well as other brands of pellets). For adults, I prefer the 3mm size (vs the 5mm) --small enough for Furus & Mbuna but large enough for haps. When possible, I like to have both sinking and floating types in the mix so that each fish (even less aggressive feeders) has more opportunity to get at the food. I start my juvies out with 1mm pellets (again a mix of Dainichi & others) at about 1.5"

I have no desire to argue over who's ice is colder when it comes to fish food....My experience with this brand has been positive & "that's all I have to say about that" (said in my best Forrest Gump voice!) :lol:

[mikeg2929]

I agree that Dainichi is a great food, however the cost is ridiculous. When i fed dainichi, I noticed very little waste in the tank. Is it more efficient feed? I dont know. NLS, another great food, was always leaving residue on my sponge filters.

The price of dainichi, even when purchased in 5 pound bags, just became too much as I was using 10 pounds a month. I ended up switching to NLS when I found a guy who would sell me 5, 5 pound buckets for $35 per bucket. While I hated the mess, the product was consistent, I could feed it to all of my fish, and the price was pretty good.

[pitdogg2]

NLS, another great food, was always leaving residue on my sponge filters.

I also agree it seems that as much comes out as goes in...Which if it were my dogs the feed that leaves less of a stool is the more efficient which means they are getting more out of the food.. so yes i too have wondered if they are getting the most that they could out of NLS

[chc]

Keep in mind your human diet. A healthy, high fiber diet and a typical "fat American" diet result in quite different.......uh.......stools.