Mostly Cichlids

[Dean Hougen]

Okay, Alex suggested we do a little cichlid sharing, so I thought I should pitch in. However, I warn you, my photography skills are rudimentary at best and my camera is not good for fish photos and I didn't have much time, so be prepared. This ain't mojo coming up here! Also, some photos may not contain cichlids.

All photos taken this evening.


Dean

[glaive]

Quite the nice collection Dean and not too shabby with the picture taking.Excellent choice on the non cichlids, cories would have to be my favorite non cichlid or other. ;) Both appear very striking in different ways. I like it all, if you have the time dropping some names would be nice as well. Others likely know your fish but I would come across like a moron if I started tossing out what came to mind. :D ( No Eric php does not correctly id a fish ;) )


THanks for taking teh challenge head on.

[bobrfish]

Thanks Dean
I too would appreciate names as I do not know SA cichlids as well as I would like.

[chc]

Good selection of fish. The daemon are especially great! Is that a "custom" substrate mix?

[jgentry]

Great looking fish. Very nice eartheater collection. What size are the daemon?

[glaive]

So the later shots are Satanoperca daemon? If so I already feel better.

[Dean Hougen]

Sorry about not including names previously. Once I uploaded the pics to the forum, I couldn't find a way to include them inline to label them. Am I missing something?

In any case, here they are again, linked to from another site so that I can put text with each one.

https://sites.google.com/site/deanhougen/fishpics/BlueEyedPleco.png
Panaque cochliodon

https://sites.google.com/site/deanhougen/fishpics/Cory_arcuatus.png
Corydoras arcuatus

https://sites.google.com/site/deanhougen/fishpics/Cory_sterbai.png
Corydoras sterbai

https://sites.google.com/site/deanhougen/fishpics/Guianaraca_sphenozona_adults_and_juvi.png
Guianacara sphenozona adults and juvenile

https://sites.google.com/site/deanhougen/fishpics/Guianacara_sphenozona_adults_photo_bomb.png
Guianacara sphenozona photobomb

https://sites.google.com/site/deanhougen/fishpics/Tahuantinsuyoa_macantzatza.png
Tahuantinsuyoa macantzatza

https://sites.google.com/site/deanhougen/fishpics/Tahuantinsuyoa_macantzatza_Geophagus_crassilabris_ juvies.png
Tahuantinsuyoa macantzatza and 'Geophagus' crassilabris juveniles

https://sites.google.com/site/deanhougen/fishpics/Geophagus_sp_Rio_Aeroes.png
Geophagus sp. "Rio Aereos"

https://sites.google.com/site/deanhougen/fishpics/Geophagus_dicrozoster.png
Geophagus dicrozoster

https://sites.google.com/site/deanhougen/fishpics/Satanoperca_daemon_1.png
Satanoperca daemon

https://sites.google.com/site/deanhougen/fishpics/Satanoperca_daemon_2.png
Satanoperca daemon

https://sites.google.com/site/deanhougen/fishpics/Satanoperca_daemon_3.png
Satanoperca daemon

https://sites.google.com/site/deanhougen/fishpics/Satanoperca_daemon_4.png
Satanoperca daemon

https://sites.google.com/site/deanhougen/fishpics/Satanoperca_daemon_5.png
Satanoperca daemon

https://sites.google.com/site/deanhougen/fishpics/Satanoperca_daemon_6.png
Satanoperca daemon

One of the things I like about Satanoperca daemon is that each one has a unique caudal spot, like a fingerprint, that makes it easy to tell them apart as individuals.

https://sites.google.com/site/deanhougen/fishpics/Satanoperca_daemon_juvi.png
Satanoperca daemon juvenile

The Tahuantinsuyoa macantzatza and 'Geophagus' crassilabris juveniles are from my fish breeding in my tanks. The Satanoperca daemon juvenile is wild caught.


Dean

[Dean Hougen]

Thanks for all the positive comments, folks!

Good selection of fish. The daemon are especially great! Is that a "custom" substrate mix?

In with the daemon? Yes, it is a custom mix called "mostly silica sand, if I remember right, with a bit of other sands (maybe play sand?) that has gotten mixed in accidentally over the years as I've taken down tanks and moved them and set them up again, and also some little white bits whose origin is a complete mystery to me."


Great looking fish. Very nice eartheater collection. What size are the daemon?

Not counting the 3 little juvies that I picked up at auction recently, I've got 10 adults ranging from 8" to 10" TL.

Thanks again.


Dean

[glaive]

I must ask, what is the temperament and suggested tank size for Guianacara sphenozona? I can't set anything up anytime sooner, however they are intriguing and good knowledge is good knowledge.

[Dean Hougen]

In my experience, Guianacara are all about the same in temperament, which is good because some species can be pretty hard to tell apart. (Having said that, I realize that I called those above G. sphenozona when they are actually a better match for G. owroewefi. Ooops! See below for G. sphenozona.) They are pretty easy going, comparable to a Firemouth -- mostly bluster with little real attack behind it. I've never really kept them in anything less than a 125 as adults but I'd expect a pair to be fine in something as small as a 40 breeder. This pair is in with Honduran Red Points (which bothers me a little from a biotope standpoint but I make do with the space I have available) as well as tetras, bushy-nose plecos, and corys. The last pair of Guianacara I had (below) was in with Heros, Geophagus, Mesonauta, and Aequidens.

These photos are all low quality scans from slides.

http://www.cs.ou.edu/~hougen/fishpics/70_guianacara_w_cave.jpg
G. sphenozona pair with eggs in "cave" (flowerpot shard) with young Geophagus altifrons in background.

http://www.cs.ou.edu/~hougen/fishpics/75_guianacara_w_fry.jpg
G. sphenozona pair with fry.

http://www.cs.ou.edu/~hougen/fishpics/81_mesonauta.jpg
Mesonauta guyanae with fry.

http://www.cs.ou.edu/~hougen/fishpics/154_cf_palidus.jpg
Aequidens

http://www.cs.ou.edu/~hougen/fishpics/155_cf_cf_pallidus.jpg
Aequidens


Dean

[chc]

"Mystery sand!" Love it. I'm just glad to see your fish get to enjoy rooting around in the right kind of stuff. That's what makes the eartheater types special to me, whether from SA or CA.

Dean, your last few photos have a reddish tinge to them. Is that peat or driftwood leaching, or do you just take photos like I do?

[bobrfish]

I find myself attracted to Guianacara
Thanks for tips on care.

[Nemesis]

Very nice collection. I really like the Guianacara and Daemon's. I just gave a friend of mine my group of 6 Guianacara Stergiosi. I'm going to miss them.

[Dean Hougen]

I agree, Chris -- sifters should be able to sift! My photos often have somewhat of a reddish, yellowish, or tannish tint from driftwood leaching. Those older ones were originally Ektachrome slides, which probably added to the tinting. The really red one of the Guianacara with fry was at the end of the tank and got a lot of reflected light from the wall beside the tank that was red.

Bob, I really like Guianacara too. I don't understand why they aren't more popular. I really like that their black changes around so much with mood, particularly breeding.

Thanks for the kinds words, David. I think G. stergiosi is an excellent fish! A friend of mine bred these back in MN twenty years ago but I failed to get fry from him. D'oh!

By the way, here is a photo of the first Guianacara I owned. The photo is bad, even for me, but I keep it anyway because that was a wonderful fish. The amount of gold and bronze on his sides was really impressive.

http://www.cs.ou.edu/~hougen/fishpics/Guianacara_Gold.jpg


Dean

[Nemesis]

Yes, they are definitely one of my favorite genus. I really like your sphenezona. I would like to try my hand with them in the future. If you don't mind, here is a pic of one of my males...

http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab3/dvelez529/IMG_4818.jpg

[Dean Hougen]

Very nice! Thanks for sharing. I don't mind at all. Exactly the opposite: I'd love to see more.


Dean

[Fevz]

Oh i envy you the wide selection of cichlids you can have :)

[Mikeinco]

Dean you have a great collection of South American Cichlids much similar to mine. I especially like the Guianacara and my pair are very impressive at the moment in a 90 gallon with a group of Etroplus Canarensis and a lone Heros Rotkeil. I didn't know we kept the same types of fish.

[Dean Hougen]

Thank you both.

We really do have a wonderful selection of fish in the US!

I also didn't know we had so many fish in common. We really should talk cichlids more on this forum. Here is a pair of fish I gave away a year ago but still miss.

http://www.cs.ou.edu/~hougen/fishpics/RedHeads008.jpg

http://www.cs.ou.edu/~hougen/fishpics/RedHeads003.jpg

http://www.cs.ou.edu/~hougen/fishpics/RotkeilWebsize.jpg

http://www.cs.ou.edu/~hougen/fishpics/RotkeilWithEggsWebSize.jpg

http://www.cs.ou.edu/~hougen/fishpics/RotkeilWithEggsWebsize.jpg



Dean

[Decker504]

Sorry about not including names previously. Once I uploaded the pics to the forum, I couldn't find a way to include them inline to label them. Am I missing something?

In any case, here they are again, linked to from another site so that I can put text with each one.

https://sites.google.com/site/deanhougen/fishpics/BlueEyedPleco.png
Panaque cochliodon

https://sites.google.com/site/deanhougen/fishpics/Cory_arcuatus.png
Corydoras arcuatus

https://sites.google.com/site/deanhougen/fishpics/Cory_sterbai.png
Corydoras sterbai

https://sites.google.com/site/deanhougen/fishpics/Guianaraca_sphenozona_adults_and_juvi.png
Guianacara sphenozona adults and juvenile

https://sites.google.com/site/deanhougen/fishpics/Guianacara_sphenozona_adults_photo_bomb.png
Guianacara sphenozona photobomb

https://sites.google.com/site/deanhougen/fishpics/Tahuantinsuyoa_macantzatza.png
Tahuantinsuyoa macantzatza

https://sites.google.com/site/deanhougen/fishpics/Tahuantinsuyoa_macantzatza_Geophagus_crassilabris_ juvies.png
Tahuantinsuyoa macantzatza and 'Geophagus' crassilabris juveniles

https://sites.google.com/site/deanhougen/fishpics/Geophagus_sp_Rio_Aeroes.png
Geophagus sp. "Rio Aereos"

https://sites.google.com/site/deanhougen/fishpics/Geophagus_dicrozoster.png
Geophagus dicrozoster

https://sites.google.com/site/deanhougen/fishpics/Satanoperca_daemon_1.png
Satanoperca daemon

https://sites.google.com/site/deanhougen/fishpics/Satanoperca_daemon_2.png
Satanoperca daemon

https://sites.google.com/site/deanhougen/fishpics/Satanoperca_daemon_3.png
Satanoperca daemon

https://sites.google.com/site/deanhougen/fishpics/Satanoperca_daemon_4.png
Satanoperca daemon

https://sites.google.com/site/deanhougen/fishpics/Satanoperca_daemon_5.png
Satanoperca daemon

https://sites.google.com/site/deanhougen/fishpics/Satanoperca_daemon_6.png
Satanoperca daemon

One of the things I like about Satanoperca daemon is that each one has a unique caudal spot, like a fingerprint, that makes it easy to tell them apart as individuals.

https://sites.google.com/site/deanhougen/fishpics/Satanoperca_daemon_juvi.png
Satanoperca daemon juvenile

The Tahuantinsuyoa macantzatza and 'Geophagus' crassilabris juveniles are from my fish breeding in my tanks. The Satanoperca daemon juvenile is wild caught.


Dean

I can't wait until my daemons get that big. Im also considering grabbing some dicrozoster tommorrow from 50 Fathoms to raise with the daemons and surinamsis. Just what I need a nother addiction: Geos!

[cavamart]

Thanks for sharing.

[newworld]

Nice pics how about some of your adult crassilabrus, the one "red hump" I had trouble keeping...

[Dean Hougen]

Nice pics how about some of your adult crassilabrus, the one "red hump" I had trouble keeping...

Sure thing! Here is the female.
http://www.cs.ou.edu/~hougen/fishpics/CrassilabrisFemaleWebsize.jpg

Here is the male.
http://www.cs.ou.edu/~hougen/fishpics/CrassilabrisMale1Websize.jpg

Unfortunately, he died, so I only have her and the juvies at this point.


Dean

[newworld]

very nice fish, one of these days i will try them again, prob. the most rare "red hump" avail now....

[Dean Hougen]

They are very cool and I just completely lucked into them. I was giving a talk at the Minnesota Aquarium Society, the host had spawned them, and he gave me fry as a gift! It is my intention to do likewise and spread the fry around to folks who will appreciate them. However, that is not quite as easy as I had hoped it would be. Then again, I guess that is why the are less common in the hobby!


Dean