angel fish breeding

[scottr70]

Finally have a nice fish room set up with around 700 gallons worth of tanks in it. Now I would like to start breeding angels I can get them to hatch and just when they start to free swimming they die any Ideas on this ? Have talked to a couple people and they have said it may be the water that is in my area this is my 7th batch and same thing has happened every time

[pitdogg2]

what are the water parameters? that would help us here, but to be honest i've seen them hatch and grow in about all conditions.

[scottr70]

what are the water parameters? it is not the parameters that seem to be the problem they are in a good range the problem is they switched what they where putting in the water they went from Chlorine to Chloramines.

[pitdogg2]

what are the water parameters? it is not the parameters that seem to be the problem they are in a good range the problem is they switched what they where putting in the water they went from Chlorine to Chloramines.

sorry scott but I also can't see that is the problem either because your clorine remover most of the time will break the bond with the ammonia and your bio-filter will remove the ammonia, or ALL your fish would be dead.
I would recommend you not do any water changes while you have eggs and they become free swimmers until long after they start swimming. Are you using any water conditioner for your water changes? If not all your fish would be having trouble. Sometimes the parents will kill them if they are new to parenting are you sure that is not happening
we still need MORE INFO to help you

[scottr70]

They are not with the parents the eggs are being pulled and put in a small tank so it is not the parents and yes I am using prime on every water change that is done on any of my tanks keeping the temp at 84 I am not showing any spikes of any kind in the water also have several diffrent pairs that this has happened with so that rules out a bad pair also they die right after they start to free swim that is the hard part about this half of them will start to swim and then they die I cant even get them up to start feeding on bbs they only make it threw the first night

[pitdogg2]

They are not with the parents the eggs are being pulled and put in a small tank so it is not the parents and yes I am using prime on every water change that is done on any of my tanks keeping the temp at 84 I am not showing any spikes of any kind in the water also have several diffrent pairs that this has happened with so that rules out a bad pair also they die right after they start to free swim that is the hard part about this half of them will start to swim and then they die I cant even get them up to start feeding on bbs they only make it threw the first night

Prime is very good so that rules that out. Try leaving them with the parents you got nothing to loose. So far i can't see it being the water. are you changing the water while they are in the tank waiting for the hatch? although i think the water is a little on the warm side 75 would be better IMO you got it up there in the discus area and O2 is not as plentyful at 84 much more O2 at 75 temp. for the first feeding i would try some powdered fry food for a couple of weeks then go to BBS or rotifers cyclops or even try green water. There're some strains of angle fish that have weak genetics. Did these come from a breeder or a petsmart,petco or something along those lines?

[scottr70]

All my angels are from breeders and the pairs are not related as far as the temp goes I will back it down I will try the food I was told that live bbs was the best thing to start them out on it will be alot easier if they will start on dry fry food thanks for your help

[Jimcormier]

Stay with the BB and when you feed them for the first time can you see their bellies fill up? Do you know if they do eat? Are you waiting too long to feed them for the first time? They should eat BB as soon as they come off the bottom.

[scottr70]

yes as soon as they are free swimming I feed them bbs and I can see that they have feed that is the part I cant understand they still die off just set up planted tanks with the pairs in them to try and let them raise there own also shut down my fish room untill I can get this one down so I have four pairs back in the house