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JustRon
08-04-2006, 7:36 AM
I like 40 breeders for the

most part. They just seem to fit so many needs in my fish room.

Of course I like 200g

tanks too. Man I wish I could get some more of those.

Frank T
08-04-2006, 9:09 AM
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></a></div><div class='quotemain'>I like 40 breeders for the most part. They just

seem to fit so many needs in my fish room.

Of course I like 200g tanks too. Man I wish

I could get some more of those.</div>


i like small

tanks....... http://cichlid.ipbhost.com/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif

no, not

really
bigger is better. http://cichlid.ipbhost.com/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif


180g is nice.
cause

i can fit 2 large pairs in one.
seperate all 4 fish if needed.
is big enough so that

water changes are needed less.
and it isnt too big as to be hard to move. only takes 2

people.

"40 breeders for the most part"

i do like them also,
size and shape is just right,
have many of them http://cichlid.ipbhost.com/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

fishmaven
08-04-2006, 11:43 AM
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></a></div><div class='quotemain'>I like 40 breeders for the most part. They just

seem to fit so many needs in my fish room.

Of course I like 200g tanks too. Man I wish

I could get some more of those.</div>
I like the 18X36"

format but the 40 breeders in Texas have center braces. I HATE center braces. Oceanic makes a 58g

18x36x21 that's great. They even look good on a 72" stand next to each other. Dan

number6
08-04-2006, 2:39 PM
I really like the versatility

of the foot print of the Oceanic 58g (18x36x21) as well as the quality of the tank itself.

Available in many trim types, this is my favorite show tank. Witht he 3ft 96W CF bulbs now

available, lighting has suddenly become 3ft tank friendly, even for planted tanks.

Other favorites are the 20 and 30g super talls. The 20g supertall is the footprint of a 10g with

double the height. You can use the height to allow 10g breeders somewhere to escape to.
Apistogramma harems are very easy in the 20 supertalls. The corallife 36W lights make it easy to

light these guys now.

Largest tank I've ever owned was a 4ft tank... one day I want

to get my rack of 3 6-footers... just need a bigger house to fit the steel racks! LOL

maddog10
08-04-2006, 5:17 PM
Well Ron, by default I

have to like 40 breeders and 20 highs since I have so many of them. Saw a picture of a 15' x

5' x 3' or 4' acrylic tank that I think I would really like.

JustRon
08-05-2006, 5:14 AM
I guess you do have a few of

those tanks now. Where is the monster tank, is it for sale?

maddog10
08-05-2006, 7:21 AM
The picture of the tank is

in The Reefer section (page 72) of the September 2006 edition of Tropical Fish Hobbyist.

bobrfish
08-05-2006, 12:45 PM
If I built a new fish room

with money as no object, I would visit Rusty Wessel and copy much of what he has done. I have not

seen it but I think it is mostly 75s and 125s. To cap it off, I would go for something in 750-2000

gal range.

In reality, I have 20s, 40s, 75s and 180s. Each species requires something

different so I like all of them.

Pam Chin
08-05-2006, 3:52 PM
I have some great 60 gal

flats. They are 48 X 24 X 12. I have found this size works well for me and mouthbrooders from

Lake Malawi. However, I also use them for Tanganyikan community tanks, and for some of my smaller

Central American Cichlids too. They were made for a hatchery or wholesaler, and were used when I

got them, but they have served me well. They have plenty suface area, and this also makes them

easy to clean. I prefer to keep mostly species only tanks, and if gives me the opportunity to have

lots of room for different groups. I have 36 of these set up, and I don't know what I would do

with out them! The rest of my tanks are in the 55, 20, 10 gal range. I like to work with a

lot of substrate spawners from Tanganyika and while I will set up a community tank in one of the

60's, once I get a pair, I like to set them up in 10 or 20 gal tank.

http://homepage.mac.com/pamchin/PhotoAlbum9.html

Cichlid

Power!
Pam

maddog10
08-05-2006, 11:07 PM
Pam,

Thanks for

posting the link to the photos. Saw a pic of an empty tank, hope that problem has resolved itself.

What are the racks made of? Really like the layout, any construction details on the racks? Thanks

again.

JustRon
08-06-2006, 1:20 PM
Pam, what are your tank covers

made out of?

Pam Chin
08-06-2006, 2:45 PM
I have just finished a major

remodel and replaced all my stands with steel ones. I really wanted steel, because wooden stands

just don't last forever, and this about the 5th time I have redone my stands in my hobby

life!! And I didn't want to ever have to do it again! I thought about angel iron,

but welders are slow and not cheap. I work for a mechanical contractor and we use a lot of

unistrut, and since that can be bolted together rather than welded it seemed like a good way to go

for me. Unistrut is an extruded metal, it is basically like tube steel but one end is open, so you

can hang off of it, like duct and pipe. Also unistrut is a brand name, there are other

manufacturers.

www.unistrut.com

Gary and I decided to design a stand for our

worst scenario; biggest tanks, and weight.((9) 60 gal tanks, 3 high) I gave it to a seismic

engineer, since I live in an earthquake zone, and we came up with these stands. Then for smaller

tanks we just modifyed the design.

For covers we really wanted to seal the tanks, since

we had never done that before, to cut down on evaporation and humidity. We have always just used

egg crate. We thought about glass, but it would expensive and then you have do something with the

edges. So on a whim, I decided to cover the egg crate with acetate. Acetate is a film, it is like

the material you would see on a clear report cover. You can buy it in rolls that are 48"

wide. Basically it is a vapor barrier, we just taped it to the egg crate, and then cut a hole in

the top for food. It has worked quite well, but I think we will probably end up changing it every

few years, we have all zoomed florasun light bulbs in the fishhouse and we are getting some algae

growing on the underdside of the covers. But I still think it is cheaper then glass, light weight,

and amazing as it has cut our humidity down to practically nothing.

fishmaven
08-06-2006, 3:32 PM
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></a></div><div class='quotemain'>Gary and I decided to design a stand for our worst

scenario; biggest tanks, and weight.((9) 60 gal tanks, 3 high) I gave it to a seismic engineer,

since I live in an earthquake zone, and we came up with these stands. Then for smaller tanks we

just modifyed the design.</div>
Where'd you get the tanks?

Were these like the Bailey's?

I noticed you're still a Mac person from your

photos. Would you stop by the photo section and tell another Mac person, me, how to upload photos?

I'll send you a rodeo tape. Dan

tigger0254
08-06-2006, 4:37 PM
Pam,
Very

impressive fish house...you definitely have given Rusty some "competition"......



For those that havent seen Rusty's fish house I have been lucky enough to see it.

I cant even go into too much detail for I would be typing all day about it....But I think i do

remember seeing about 12 220or265 gallon tanks on the northsection of his fish room. Not counting

the endless count of 40 gallons on the southside.

Rusty, if your out there give these

folks a little peek of your state of the art fish house!



Brian

Pam Chin
08-06-2006, 7:31 PM
Dan,

They came

out of a hatchery that was in central valley, I assumed that would be Fresno. Baileys are/were

down in Southern California. I have no idea of the name, I got them probably 3 hands later from

the actual faciltiy! You know how that goes.

Baileys are still around they do a

radio show on fish now.