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hudson21222
06-27-2008, 6:22 AM
Last night my son noticed one

of our Demasoni sort of just laying in the corner of the tank. I asked him to remove him from the

large tank and I placed him in a presetup 10 gal. I have.

I am not real sure whats wrong

with him he just seems to be breathing heavy, and he only swam when I put in some salt into the

tank.seemed as if it was to move away from the salt as it fell into his tank onto him.

I

noticed he looks like he might be a little bloated, can this be treated so how? I do wish this fish

could talk and tell me whats wrong so I could make it feel better.

If anyone can give me

any help I would be very thankful.

Krissy

penycat
06-27-2008, 7:19 AM
This sounds weird to ask,

but has he pooped lately? I keep reading the betta forum I'm on how they can get constipated

kind of easy and start to bloat. And actually one of my bettas is acting exactly the same way that

you are describing right now. I've gotten a lot of reponses in my quest for help to make her

better and so far the only thing that seems to have made a difference is the pimafix I've

added. Mine has not gone #2 yet and is slightly bloated looking, so I'm planning on waiting

till she passes, then feeding her a bit of pea paste (frozen peas, nuked in water, skin removed and

pasted up) I've not tried this on my fish yet, but I hear all sorts of good that it does for

helping restore "systems" in the fish.

Good luck with yours!!!

Barbie
06-27-2008, 11:29 AM
<span

style="color:purple">Krissy it sounds like your P. demasoni has Malawi bloat. You

can try a regimen of metronidazole, but the prognosis is usually not good. It's why it's

important to only feed vegetable and high fiber based foods to algae grazing mbuna. if your fish

will eat or swim around, there's a chance you could save him. If he's just laying on the

bottom, it would probably be kinder to euthanize him.

Basically fish with a long

digestive tract don't handle big changes in their diet, much like a horse. The gut itself

can't just adjust to two different needs at the same time. No sudden changes in diet and

maintaining enough fiber content are going to be the two most important aspects of feeding for

them.

Barbie</span>

hudson21222
06-28-2008, 11:25 PM
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--/coloro-->Krissy it sounds like your P. demasoni has Malawi bloat. You can try a regimen of

metronidazole, but the prognosis is usually not good. It's why it's important to only feed

vegetable and high fiber based foods to algae grazing mbuna. if your fish will eat or swim around,

there's a chance you could save him. If he's just laying on the bottom, it would probably

be kinder to euthanize him.

Basically fish with a long digestive tract don't handle

big changes in their diet, much like a horse. The gut itself can't just adjust to two

different needs at the same time. No sudden changes in diet and maintaining enough fiber content

are going to be the two most important aspects of feeding for them.

Barbie<!--colorc--

></span></div>

Thanks Barbie, The fish did

die. I hate this educating part by way off fish death.

Now on to the feeding and diet

you were speaking of? I would like to get more information about it. I will say during the last

week I had changed there food. I went from flakes to pellet food. All during the time these fish

died along with putting in those horrible loaches.

I am feeding them spectrum pellet

food, and will give them fresh lettuce or frozen food of emerald tree (which I can find out what it

is) if need be. The guy at the fish store told me to not give them the pellet food every day. So

the only thing I knew was to use the frozen Emerald Tree food, and fresh lettuce I purchased from

the local salad bar.

If you know of a better plan, or have any thing you can offer to

help me I would be extreemly thankful.

Bluegrass Aquatics
07-04-2008, 3:25 AM
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(post=10628:date=Jun 29 2008, 12:25 AM:name=krissy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (krissy

@ Jun 29 2008, 12:25 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=10628"><{POST_SNAPBACK}

></a></div><div class='quotemain'>Thanks Barbie, The fish did die. I hate this

educating part by way off fish death.

Now on to the feeding and diet you were speaking

of? I would like to get more information about it. I will say during the last week I had changed

there food. I went from flakes to pellet food. All during the time these fish died along with

putting in those horrible loaches.

I am feeding them spectrum pellet food, and will give

them fresh lettuce or frozen food of emerald tree (which I can find out what it is) if need be.

The guy at the fish store told me to not give them the pellet food every day. So the only thing I

knew was to use the frozen Emerald Tree food, and fresh lettuce I purchased from the local salad

bar.

If you know of a better plan, or have any thing you can offer to help me I would

be extreemly thankful.</div>

I have had some luck with

using Seachem products. The fish that already has bloat is for the most part a goner but for those

survivors that are still eating the metro that seachem has, can be mixed in with the food and fed.

You can use there product Focus™ which is an antibacterial polymer for internal infections of fish.

It may be used alone or mixed with other medications (metro)to make them palatable to fish and

reduce the loss of medication to the water through diffusion. If you want or need to treat the

water PolyGuard™ is supposedly good, I've not used it. I am not a big fan of treating water to

treat fish thought I have used the ParaGuard™ for hospital tanks with good results. Sorry if this

sounds like an advertisement for Seachem. Since I am a fish farmer and retailer most of my meds

are commercial products, the seachem is the only off the Pet Store product that have used that

seemed to have merit.