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dstuer

06-30-2006, 9:42 AM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(cichlid @ Jun 28 2006,

09:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=1400)</div><div

class='quotemain'>I always wanted to get some, but have not found any as of yet.

Just wondering if anyone had some or had some experience with them in the past?</div>

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i97/dstuer/image011.gif
Here's a

dark, phone shot of my 12" Etroplus suratensus, there's also an 8" one in the tank.

They only eat only peas, broccolli, and leafy veggies(including dandelions) and some algae,

won't accept any pellets or standard fish foods. They are in a 150 gal with a salinity of 3.5

parts per thousand kept at about 80' F. I believe the higher salinity allows a lower temp

tolerence, standard temp for keeping them is said to be almost 90'. They are commom here in

Milwaukee at a shop called Hoffers.

JustRon

07-02-2006, 5:44 AM

Nice! I may have to try

some one day. I have a 200 that needs some fish.

Damba

08-07-2006, 2:49 AM

I have 4 wild sri lnakan

Suratensis in with some MAdagascan Ptychochromines. The water is 10ml salt per gallon and they are

currently 4 - 5 inches and showing great colour. They eat mainly veggies but also some pellets and

spirulina flake.

JustRon

08-07-2006, 5:31 AM

How long have you had them?

Do you like keeping them? Do you find them to be similar to Paretroplus from Madagascar (if you

have had those).

Damba

08-07-2006, 8:05 AM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(cichlid @ Aug 7 2006,

05:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=2154)</div><div

class='quotemain'>How long have you had them? Do you like keeping them? Do you

find them to be similar to Paretroplus from Madagascar (if you have had those).<!--QuoteEnd--

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Ron,

I have had them for a year and they are very

similar to Paretroplus if a little more gentle. Like Paretroplus they are slow growing and do

better in small shoals but it is very much a waiting game. I managed to get these from a specialist

shop in London (UK) but they are extremely hard to come buy. I think I have seen some prespawning

behaviour which is almost identical to that seen in the Menarambo. When I had mt Pe. Damii in with

them they very much formed one loose shoal and maybe preceived that they were closely related. All

in all a fascinating fish. I am waiting to see if the male will practice most of teh brood care as

in Paretroplus. This is the main difference (Along with tiny offspring) that differentiates the

Etroplines from teh Cichlids.
BTW the Paretroplus have proven to be extremely salt tolerant

and i now as a rule keep all mine in fairly strongly brackish water. They colours have improved and

tehre has been far more pre spawning behaviour.
They are certainly amongst my favourite fish I

am currently keeping and can eat a head of spring greens in seconds!!! Ideal fish for

any strict vegetarians out there.

andregurov

08-07-2006, 1:38 PM

I have 4 Etroplus

canarensis that I picked up about 4-5 weeks ago. They are extremely active and well-behaved

little fish. They eat more greens than my Bocourti! I'm not certain as to identifying

genders with them, but they are still in quarantine so there is no rush. Everything I've read

about them says they thrive at high temps, so mine are at about 85 degrees F (that's the

ambient temperature in my fishroom/laundry room).

J

dstuer

08-09-2006, 9:16 AM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(andregurov @ Aug 7 2006,

01:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=2160)</div><div

class='quotemain'>I have 4 Etroplus canarensis that I picked up about 4-5

weeks ago. They are extremely active and well-behaved little fish. They eat more greens than my

Bocourti! I'm not certain as to identifying genders with them, but they are still in

quarantine so there is no rush. Everything I've read about them says they thrive at high

temps, so mine are at about 85 degrees F (that's the ambient temperature in my fishroom/laundry

room).

J</div>
hey Damba are you in the US?

I've been trying to find some damii for a while now, would be willing to trade some adult

lamena for damii fry or any age. Duane.. Milwaukee.

Damba

08-10-2006, 6:02 AM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(duane @ Aug 9 2006, 09:16

AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=2198)</div><div

class='quotemain'>hey Damba are you in the US? I've been trying to find some

damii for a while now, would be willing to trade some adult lamena for damii fry or any age.

Duane.. Milwaukee.</div>

I wish, i am in the UK

unfortunately http://cichlid.ipbhost.com/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif otherwise i would be

definatley up for your idea. Wish i could get any Paretroplus over here. My Damii came from Jean

Claude and most of my other madagascans have coem from Joerg Albering in Austria or Dave and Sonia.

Tom

dstuer

08-10-2006, 9:48 AM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Damba @ Aug 10 2006,

06:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=2222)</div><div

class='quotemain'>I wish, i am in the UK unfortunately http://cichlid.ipbhost.com/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif otherwise i would be definatley up for your idea. Wish i

could get any Paretroplus over here. My Damii came from Jean Claude and most of my other

madagascans have coem from Joerg Albering in Austria or Dave and Sonia.

Tom</div>
I just figured out your location from the post about the

spawning Ptychos on either Aquamojo or Cichlid Room, I bounch around sites as I think all

cichlomaniacs do. Thanks for the reply, my Ptycho oligs have been spawning too, took some fry to

the ACA auction. When newly hatched, the fry were so small artemia didn't work so I used

frapped peas. Now at a little over an inch, they eat everything offered.

dstuer

08-10-2006, 2:08 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Damba @

Aug 10 2006, 06:02 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2222"><{POST_SNAPBACK}

></a></div><div class='quotemain'>I wish, i am in the UK unfortunately http://cichlid.ipbhost.com/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif otherwise i would be definatley up for your idea. Wish i

could get any Paretroplus over here. My Damii came from Jean Claude and most of my other

madagascans have coem from Joerg Albering in Austria or Dave and Sonia.

Tom</div>
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i97/dstuer/image005.jpg Here's a photo

of mother Ptycho with newly free swimming fry. She was only about 3 inches total lngth at time of

spawning, the male 3-3.5.

bobrfish

08-12-2006, 5:28 PM

I keep a pair of Etroplus

suratensis. They will fed off pellets. First to food and will take more faster than other fish in

tank. They seem to be growing in height rather than length. There is no indication of spawning.

pH 8.2 GH 22 degrees KH 17 degrees

dstuer

08-22-2006, 9:27 AM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bobrfish @ Aug 12 2006,

05:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=2256)</div><div

class='quotemain'>I keep a pair of Etroplus suratensis. They will fed off pellets.

First to food and will take more faster than other fish in tank. They seem to be growing in height

rather than length. There is no indication of spawning. pH 8.2 GH 22 degrees KH 17 degrees<!

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I believe I saw in the trading post that you have

"lamena".
Any success with spawning them yet?
Mine spawned last fall but

after a couple days, nothing. Thinking of taking the eggs and artificially hatching them if I get

lucky again this fall, and if the eggs are placed on a movable surface. Any tips? Same thing

happened with menarambo last fall.

bobrfish

08-22-2006, 10:26 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(duane @ Aug 22 2006,

09:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=2322)</div><div

class='quotemain'>I believe I saw in the trading post that you have

"lamena".
Any success with spawning them yet?
Mine spawned last fall but

after a couple days, nothing. Thinking of taking the eggs and artificially hatching them if I get

lucky again this fall, and if the eggs are placed on a movable surface. Any tips? Same thing

happened with menarambo last fall.</div>
Lamena spawned three

times. I have witnesses. The first time, male did not even try to fertilize eggs, he just ate

them as quick as he could. Second time, I was busy and not sure what happened. Third time, the

eggs were being guarded by one of the two lamena. I though I will come back in two hours and pull

the eggs. I came back but eggs were gone.

I lost a menarambo from group of four. No

more spawning since I lost that one. Likely a female. I will try to obtain more adult menarambo

soon.

Maculates spawned. I gathered about 60 fry and they lived for about one month but

are now all gone. I suspect those fry need daily care, siphoning out unconsumed food. Lots of

water changes,etc. I have become too busy for that type of care.

dstuer

08-23-2006, 12:31 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bobrfish @ Aug 22 2006,

10:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=2326)</div><div

class='quotemain'>Lamena spawned three times. I have witnesses. The first time,

male did not even try to fertilize eggs, he just ate them as quick as he could. Second time, I was

busy and not sure what happened. Third time, the eggs were being guarded by one of the two lamena.

I though I will come back in two hours and pull the eggs. I came back but eggs were gone.

I lost a menarambo from group of four. No more spawning since I lost that one. Likely a

female. I will try to obtain more adult menarambo soon.

Maculates spawned. I gathered

about 60 fry and they lived for about one month but are now all gone. I suspect those fry need

daily care, siphoning out unconsumed food. Lots of water changes,etc. I have become too busy for

that type of care.</div>
Your experiences mirror mine, but

congrats, you've got 1 paretroplus to the fry stage, a major feat in my book. When I try to

separate my lamena pair from the community, the male beats up the female.
They only spawn and

get along in the presence of the masses and within a day the eggs are gone. Been thinking of

trying one of those rubber maid tubs with a stronge current, lots of large rocks, and shallow

water. My only Malagasy success has been Ptycho oligcanthus, took a bag of 1" fishto the ACA

convention last month. Hope whoever got them is all good. Still have 10 youngsters left.

dstuer

10-04-2006, 9:34 AM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(duane @ Aug 23 2006,

12:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=2328)</div><div

class='quotemain'>Your experiences mirror mine, but congrats, you've got 1

paretroplus to the fry stage, a major feat in my book. When I try to separate my lamena pair from

the community, the male beats up the female.
They only spawn and get along in the presence of

the masses and within a day the eggs are gone. Been thinking of trying one of those rubber maid

tubs with a stronge current, lots of large rocks, and shallow water. My only Malagasy success has

been Ptycho oligcanthus, took a bag of 1" fishto the ACA convention last month. Hope whoever

got them is all good. Still have 10 youngsters left.</div>
Suratensis sunning
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i97/dstuer/image001-7.jpg

OwenL

04-15-2008, 12:02 AM

I can't believe i missed

out on this conversation. I have only been keeping Etroplus Maculatus but they seem to be common? I

would like to get a hold of the other two etroplus species but they dont' seem to be available

here in SoCal. My Orange chromides have all paired up. I originally had 17 of them now i only have

15, but it's ok since they are showing spawning behavior. I always thought they'd get a

little bit bigger than they are. They're only 2 inches long. It seems as though they've

stopped growing. I've had them since December and they were tiny then, about half an inch to

.75 inch. I haven't observed them school. It would be great if i could have a pair of

suratensis with them.

Question: Do Orange Orange chromide produce fry with the original

coloration? or do they produce orange orange chromides?

JustRon

04-15-2008, 5:29 AM

Don't know about what they

produce, but when you are ready to get rid of some let me know. I want them.

OwenL

04-16-2008, 12:39 AM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JustRon

@ Apr 15 2008, 02:29 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=9243"><{POST_SNAPBACK}

></a></div><div class='quotemain'>Don't know about what they produce, but when

you are ready to get rid of some let me know. I want them.</div>

I saw about a clutch of 20-30 eggs today. I'm not sure if they'll hatch but i'm

hoping that they do. I'll let you know what happens to them. By the way I have pictures of my

chromides here: http://www.dropshots.com/Ojlayugan#albums/Asian%20Cichlids
These are some

pics of them before the move.

DogFish

04-16-2008, 1:33 AM

Did you want all your fish

albums showing or just the chromides?

OwenL

04-16-2008, 4:15 AM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dogfish

@ Apr 15 2008, 11:33 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=9257"><{POST_SNAPBACK}

></a></div><div class='quotemain'>Did you want all your fish albums showing or just

the chromides?</div>

I'm ok with all of them showing.

They are still all my fish. The only difference is that I've moved them around to different

tanks after I moved... so the pics aren't exactly up to date. They are about a month old at

latest.

The chromides would be under Asian Cichlids. You'll see some of my

Paretroplus Dambabe with them because I had them growing out in the same tank. I moved my Dambabes

to a different tank after the move and the Paratilapia sp. are no longer in the same tank either.

Heiko Bleher

03-05-2010, 2:30 PM

Hi guys,

all Etroplus lovers, have a look at the video my better half did, those I collected in January in southern India. They were E. maculatus of amazing colour pattern and Natasha filmed their fry in nature:

http://www.aquapress-bleher.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1

All the very best and really: They are freshwater fishes at its best and incredible beauties.

Best regards from an fish adict and collector

Heiko Bleher
www.quapress-bleher.com

anubiasdesign

05-11-2010, 6:25 PM

Is anyone working with wild chromides? They've been coming in from Sri Lanka for a year and a half or so now, and are pretty nice fish. I've gotten them a couple of times but have always sold them and just haven't kept them around long enough to try to breed them. They eat pellets like crazy within the first couple of days and as soon as they take those, they eat everything else as well. They also seem to have more interesting personalities than the tankraised orange chromides I had years ago.
Mark